I have tried tons of services over the past few years and the only stock-picker service I have found that is worth its cost ($199 a year) is China Profit Strategy with Robert Hsiu. He knows what he is doing, however most of his stuff is extended right now, so best wait for another major China pullback before playing. But ... ACH, CEO, CTRP, SNP to name a few... too bad I was so burnt out on the other loser services I had tried, I did not get into these when I joined last November .. I did not trust him at first & just wanted to observe. Now I do trust him. I play most of his picks with longer term options & that works very well. He has another service, Asia Watch for $2k per year and I am trying it for $200 (refundable) for 3 months .. I will not continue, I thought it would be more 'trading' the stocks, 1-3 week swing trades, but it is actually just like his other service but includes stocks from other Asian countries. All his picks are too pricey for me to buy & hold, so I need to find stuff that works with options. The China Strategy picks are keeping me busy & I look forward to the next China correction so I can ride the next wave :-))
My experience has been similar. There have been a couple of losers for me in China Profit Strategy, but mostly serious gains so far, a few at 70 to 90%. I am very pleased and have made back the price of admission many times over. I also tried the $200 Asia Edge taste and decided not to pursue it--the picks didn't seem better than China Profit and as you said, were basically more of the same (longer term) but in other Asian countries. More fun to sleuth them out, anyway.
I'm a newbie and can't believe I didn't know about this site before now. Thanks so much, I love it! One of my hobbies is trying to figure out what stocks these touts are tantalizing us with. (I've gotten pretty good at it -- usually takes me about 5 min or less.) So finally I decided to take up Robert Hsu on a 3-month Asia Edge tryout. Maybe it's the timing, since I'm just coming to the end of the 3 months, but I've been disappointed. He's obviously a momentum guy, at least in this newsletter, buying really high, well after stocks have proven themselves. I already had four of the stocks he was recommending and had bought them considerably cheaper. He recommended Alumina at $26 and then recommended a sell two weeks later at a considerable loss. Ouch! I'm thinking about trying China Edge, but there are relatively fewer stocks in that universe, and there might be cheaper ways to find out about them. I do like his informative tone, but I wonder if he really does have an edge. Welcome your insights.
I am pretty ambivalent about it. From memory 2 of his monthly newsletter did not have new recommendation last year. One was a retireration to buy MR and the other was a general overview of the current portfolio. I am also slightly annoyed that he recommends Chinese stocks in Asia Edge that he won't recommend in China Strategy. For instance he recommended GSH and TSL in AE but not in CS. Luckily I bought GSH due to a recommendation from Asia Stock Alert and TSl since I keep an eye out for any Chinese IPO.
Maybe I expected to much but I was hoping for a newsletter that would guide you through the general China Market even if just to tell you to stay away from a certain IPO. On the other hand it was an extremly useful tool to dip my toes in the Chinese market. Can't decide if I'll renew or not.
Just as a FYI Barrons has a very negative article on LDK in this week's issue. There might continue to be a slight downward run. The main concern is centered around accounting irrgularities. I'll post more when I actually read the article in full. I just gave it a quick skim at lunch today.
Thanks for the reply Gukdorak, would you happen to be a subscriber to the service? There are people on the yahoo LDK board, claiming that Robert has recommended to sell LDK because of the Barron's article...etc. Don't know if I should trust yahoo board, because the longs and shorts argue and post fake info there all day. So if anyone here is actual subscriber for the service, please let me know if that is true or not. Thank you for your help.
Just read the whole thing. Here's a very breif summary.
Charley Situ the financial controller of LDK resigned in protest on the 25th of September. He alleges that LDK inventory is overvalue by a range of 45 to 92 million dollars. The reason for his belief as that warehouse records don’t agree with the accounting records and haven’t tied for quite some time. He likens the current state of the FS to fraud.
Barron did a quick investigation and turned up some other discrepancies mostly to do with manufacturing capacity and poor quality production.
LDK denies all of Barron’s findings. LDK also claims they fire Situ but on close scrutiny that doesn’t hold up since Situ copied everyone from the tooth fairy to the SEC in his resignation email.
All in all I am staying far away from this one. Wonder what Robert Hsu will say about all this and how come none of his boots on the ground even got a sniff of it.
A note of possible interest is that (LDK) regular third party auditor is KPMG. From all accounts this company is AAA regarding integrity and oversight. Unless they've hid something they should be able to get ahead of this, if they go with an other third party auditor I'd say the chances of a quick recovery would be slim.
The stock is down another 5% in after market trading tonight after a 25% drop on the day. Buckle your seat belts, as it may be a wild ride or a horrible crash.
I posted a write up here: http://hexdek16.blogspot.com/2007/10/ldk-solar.html
I bought at $49 on Friday, and just not sure what to do at this point. I think the reaction from today are overblown and mostly done by large hedge fund shorting the stock big time. On the other hand, I am concern that the sentiment and panic alone will take this down further. I know plenty of people bought at $70ish and are losing even more money than I do. I am down about 20% at this point, but this is one of those high risk/high reward scenario here, otherwise I would of cut my loses long ago.
Someone posted a flash alert message from Robert Hsu (or so it seems), claims that Mr. Hsu has recommended everyone to sell the stock now. I don't have a subscription to the service, and not sure if this is for real or the works of the shorties roaming on the Yahoo board all day....
I am a China Startegy member and I just got his flash to sell LDK. Here's the text:
Bad news about our solar wafer manufacturer LDK Solar (NYSE: LDK) keeps coming. Its share price fell sharply again today after a Barron’s article made additional negative allegation regarding LDK Solar’s financial controls and technology. Let’s go over the situation and I will tell you exactly what you should do with the stock.
Last week, I told you that a former LDK employee raised concerns about the company’s inventory. The stock dropped on the news as investors worried about the company’s future. At that time, China was in the midst of a national holiday and I was unable to contact company executives for direct questioning.
That is why I initially moved the stock to a hold. Based on our history with the company, I thought it was prudent to wait for more information before taking action. Today, Barron’s published an article with a strong bias against China’s solar industry. That has helped change my mind on LDK.
The article starts out describing China’s solar-power industry as a “red-hot bubble” and went on to describe conversations with an insider at LDK that pointed to serious manufacturing concerns. According to the article, “the company's silicon ingots were indeed so impure that a recent production run had produced tons of them that were too contaminated for technicians to even analyze with instruments.” This is pretty damaging for the company and I don’t think the stock will be able to bounce back to previous highs in a reasonable amount of time.
I’m still bullish on the solar industry as a whole, which offers an alternative source of clean and renewable energy. Solar energy is a viable technology, and there are still plenty of opportunities in this industry. Chinese solar companies have a cost advantage in this commodity product, and unless a non-Chinese firm develops a major technological advantage, Chinese firms will continue to gain market share in the industry. This is why we will continue to hold our investment in Suntech Power (NYSE: STP).
What to Do with LDK Now In the article, the Barron’s writer questions the technology that LDK uses to produce wafers. Unlike the writer at Barron’s, I don’t want to speculate about this technology, which is mature and has been in use for years. The problem for us as China Strategy investors is LDK’s management.
This afternoon, LDK Solar addressed investors’ concerns, saying that it would soon report on its inventory levels. Chief Financial Officer Jack Lai said that the company would file a report with the SEC soon. This report will publish information reconciling data from a management assessment and independent auditing firm KPMG. It will make a final determination of LDK’s inventory of polysilicon.
Regardless of the investigation’s results, it is clear that LDK’s management dealt with this situation in an unsatisfactory manner. This makes me question the company’s management capabilities and financial controls. Though the company has responded to inventory allegations, I view its conference call and subsequent press releases as murky at best. As of today, LDK Solar’s management team still has yet to reply to the questions I sent them last week.
Although we do not know what the audit results will be, we do know that LDK’s management team does not have the required skills to handle crises effectively. Here at China Strategy, we only want to invest in top-tier companies with world-class potential. LDK’s upside potential from here is limited and I gave management a fair chance to address our concerns. Given the uncertainty surrounding the stock and the lack of clear leadership from the company’s management, we should exit our position. I want you to sell LDK now.
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MONDAY, OCTOBER 8, 2007 China's Solar Boom Loses Its Luster By BILL ALPERT
CHINA'S SOLAR-POWER STOCKS WERE a red-hot bubble until Wednesday. That's when investors learned that an accounting officer had quit one of the industry's hottest firms, the silicon-wafer maker LDK Solar (ticker: LDK), while alleging that LDK's warehouse and financial reports were loaded with junk. As its American depositary shares fell by nearly 30%, LDK defended its bookkeeping and assured shareholders that it has more than 1,000 metric tons of silicon material.
There may be good stuff in that pile of silicon, but that doesn't mean it's worth what LDK's balance sheet says. On Sept. 25, the Xinyu City, China, firm's financial controller, Charley Situ, sent e-mails to regulators, auditors and investment bankers saying that he had quit because his bosses refused to write off bad inventory. His allegations were disclosed, and largely dismissed, in a Wednesday note by LDK investment banker Piper Jaffray. Still, the news sent LDK's depositary shares reeling, from over $71 to 50.95 by Friday.
Even after that sickening dive, LDK's New York-listed shares go for nine times book value and over 40 times this year's forecast earnings-so investors should still care if the book value, and therefore its profit, is overstated. The inventory that makes up that book value may warrant concern. With the help of an interpreter, Barron's talked to someone with knowledge of LDK's manufacturing. That person said that the company's silicon ingots were indeed so impure that a recent production run had produced tons of them that were too contaminated for technicians to even analyze with instruments. The company says it knows of no such problems.
LDK isn't the only producer of solar silicon in China that uses low-paid workers to sort through scrap in search of some good enough to be melted into solar-cell wafers. Nor is it the only one with a high-priced stock, as you can see in the table. Investors in China and the U.S. have rushed into China's solar-cell stocks as rashly as investors jumped onto the Internet in the 1990s.
Table: China's Solar BubbleWith help from China's government, its bankers and U.S. underwriters, green fields have sprouted silicon-wafer factories built by businessmen with expertise seemingly as unrelated to silicon as aluminum siding and safety shoes. Even if financial and manufacturing controls prove to be no problem, competition will. LDK still enjoyed a market capitalization of $5 billion last week, but a couple of hundred million dollars in machinery is enough to reproduce its business anywhere in the world, and dozens of firms in China and elsewhere have been buying wafer-making gear from LDK's vendors. All you need is cheap labor, friendly bankers and a willingness to stomach negative free-cash flow.
Global warming and rising fossil-fuel prices make solar an appealing source of electricity, but it still costs more than other power sources in just about every place except Japan. Nevertheless, demand for the cells has grown smartly in recent years as governments in countries like Germany and Spain have required their electricity consumers to subsidize anyone installing solar-power generators. European solar-cell vendors like Q-Cells (QCLSF) and Renewable Energy (REC.Norway) have thrived on that demand. U.S. solar-cell makers include SunPower (SPWR), the expensively-valued subsidiary of Cypress Semiconductor (CY).
The company's American depositary shares go for almost nine times book value even after their big drop, so investors should still care if that figure is overstated. Eager for clean, oil-independent energy, China's government encouraged entrepreneurs to start making solar-power components. Businesses from diverse corners of the economy answered the call. Until April 2006, Trina Solar (TSL) made aluminum siding. LDK's 32-year old chief executive and controlling shareholder, Xiaofeng Peng, made industrial safety shoes and gloves.
But a shortage of refined polysilicon has pinched solar-cell makers in the past few years. The raw material's price has gone from around $30 a kilogram to over $250 on the spot market, creating a windfall for producers like MEMC Electronic Materials (WFR). But the higher prices have hurt China's latest solar-cell contenders, which lack established supplier relationships-which helps explain the net losses at China-based Canadian Solar (CSIQ).
So firms like LDK and London-listed ReneSola (SOLA.UK) have developed recipes that use large portions of recycled silicon. LDK has more than 3,000 workers sorting and testing scrap the company obtains from broken wafers, semiconductor rejects and ingot sawdust. LDK brags that its secret recipe lets it make wafers with as little as 25% virgin polysilicon. Since silicon accounts for 75% of LDK's cost-of-goods-sold, the potential savings are a big deal.
And LDK's industry-leading profit margin of 29% would seem to validate the savings from the company's scrap recipe. But those savings may be a mirage, according to the allegations of ex-controller Situ and a person familiar with LDK's manufacturing.
Via a translator, Barron's learned that LDK's furnaces are often short of usable feedstock, even though the company's piles of silicon scrap keep growing. The factory's internal information is unreliable, with one record reportedly indicating that LDK's wafer-cutting saws had an impossible yield of 140%. Industry experts say that most wafer-cutting enterprises break even at 90% usable yields. Instead, according to the person knowledgeable about the manufacturing, LDK's wafering operation has yields that actually range from 55% to 70%. The company won't comment on its yields.
Low yields from LDK's production may stem from its practice of buying just about any scrap that has silicon in it, says this same person. Several months back, the company's furnaces produced a batch of several dozen 270-kilo ingots so motley that testing instruments couldn't even tell whether the resulting silicon was positively or negatively charged. The virgin-silicon supplier MEMC was so alarmed at the quality of wafers produced by LDK, says the source, that it stationed its own quality-control monitor at the LDK factory in China's Jiangxi province.
LDK's Chief Financial Officer Jack Lai says he knows nothing of such manufacturing problems and insists that the company is making its deliveries on time to satisfied customers. He says the company fired Situ, the controller, for absenteeism after Situ didn't come to work for eight days. Lai says he never saw a Sept. 25 resignation e-mail that Situ addressed to him and copied to the SEC (and many others).
The Bottom Line
LDK Solar still looks expensive in light of questions about its accounting for inventory and therefore profits. The shares, already off sharply, could keep heading toward zero.In his resignation letter, Situ said that LDK's inventories might be overvalued by $46 million to $92 million, which is more than the company reported in profits before its May 31 initial offering in the U.S. E-mail discussions that started before the May IPO show Situ trying to get colleagues to reconcile discrepancies between LDK's accounting ledger and its warehouse ledger. A spreadsheet circulated by Situ showed that by the end of August, LDK warehouse records listed about $54 million worth of silicon feedstock, but accounting records showed $100 million.
Through August, according to Situ's spreadsheet, LDK sank about $119 million of cash into inventory. LDK's Jack Lai says that Situ's numbers are wrong.
Situ's internal campaign ended on Sept. 13, when financial chief Lai held a conference call with him and other accounting staff. Situ argued that LDK should take a charge for its unusable silicon scrap. In a subsequent statement, Situ says the conference ended when he was overruled by the company's chief accounting officer, Qiqiang Yao. The ruling: Silicon scrap that was not usable today might someday become usable with the new processing techniques.
That sounds like a judgment on a par with the decision to freeze Ted Williams' head, in hope that future medical miracles might someday revive the Red Sox legend.
Situ says he quit after that decision, not wanting to be party to what he considers a stock fraud. Finance chief Lai says that Situ just didn't understand the silicon-wafering business. In a Thursday press release, LDK says that a management team took a physical inventory of polysilicon feed stocks and found no accounting discrepancies. When LDK's auditors at KPMG complete an independent investigation, the company says it will disclose the results.
Financial chief Lai points to hundreds of millions in sales agreements announced in the last few months. Of course, every firm in the solar-cell industry has been announcing sales deals. That's because companies are double- and triple-ordering, to combat the shortage of good silicon.
Despite LDK's controversy, China's solar stocks ended last week with their handsome valuations largely intact. That's in part because investment bankers like Piper Jaffrey stubbornly maintained their Outperform ratings, even as they circulated Charley Situ's e-mails to institutional investors. Sound familiar? That's how analysts like Henry Blodget behaved before the bursting of the Internet bubble.
A nice *Hit* piece if I ever read one, especially the part about the sports analogy... "That sounds like a judgment on a par with the decision to freeze Ted Williams' head, in hope that future medical miracles might someday revive the Red Sox legend."
With this being one of several shots across the bow for LDK I'd have to agree that it will be a tough row ahead and I am not afraid to say that the shorts could very well have their day with this for a time. With this market currently though, I'll take the safe side of the trade and stay long. If this story goes positive there will be a quick upside as shorts cover and people look to get long again after exiting. If not, looks like I see this in the portfolio until May.
I am comfortable buying the other half of this position between $14-$17 dollars of it sours. If I get a quick upside for 30% or better with out clear guidance I may just take the trade and exit my position.
Hexdex16 the relevant sentence is the one before the one you quote. "Silicon scrap that was not usable today might someday become usable with the new processing techniques".
US GAAP would not allow to have this inventory listed on the books at full value. In most likelihood it should be written down to zero since there is great uncertainty as to whether any of it will be useable at all.
I just checked on Bloomberg and KMPG have been the auditors for LDK since February 2007. This leads to my other area of concern. KPMG should have noticed a discrepancy on their previous audit. Inventory represents about 1/3 of total assets and would therefore be consider material. A common concern in regards to inventory is overvaluation so if KPMG would have emphasis audit procedures to mitigate that risk. Did they simply drop the ball?
No. The write down is negotiable, if you study the case of NTRZ.OB wich I continue to hold. There is a market for what some are quick to call "scrap". KPMG is a company that would look at this valuation and consider the business model and use of material. I do not think this is detrimental.
I checked in here to find out Hsu's latesst recommendation about LDK & find it is a sell. Well ... today it bounced strong from its low of yesterday and is showing strength. I remember that he also recommended we all sell WYNN when it was around 75 as he said it was probably finished ... so he is not always right (although his batting avg is far better than any other service I have seen!). So I am nibbling at LDK down here with a tight stop under y'day's low. We shall see :-)
Hsu seems to have done well riding the China wave, no doubt it has been a performer for the better part of a year and more. I am less qualified to recommend in that sector, and focus more on valuation. I did not believe (and continue to) the report regarding LDK, it did not make sense, and continues not to reveal the true valuation of this company. I am strongly adverse to valuation of companies in China specifically because I do not have strong contacts with companies that trade there, not because they are not good companies. I do have a strong contact with KPMG (no insider information) and I trust what they do, what they do do is fair and valued. Having limited knowledge on China, but having strong knowledge regarding KPMG coupled with the large disconnect with the share price of LDK and a "Market Slaughter" info-babe report by the skirt at Barron's makes me puke! How shabby, one can have strong convictions with out the "hype" trade commentary I see on blogs. I respect these guys & gals, to see this "crap" journalism surprises and disgusts me. Say what you want in a blog etc... don't put it to publish on the news wire only to reissue it again the next day with out knowing your sources. The could have done allot more due diligence on this, and the information not the hype makes me bullish on a China stock, when there is so many more less risky trades.
Hi everyone, I've been a long long time reader and Reading the forums since the beginning. I guess it's time for the first post LOL. I wonder what makes Hsu any better than my 3 year old throwing darts at a target filled with China stocks? I mean how can he be wrong when anything with China in the name goes up like crazy? Let me get this straight... according to the posted article LDKs CFO has the experience in "industrial safety shoes and gloves" and that was perfectly fine with Hsu when he did his extensive research... now he recommends to sell because "LDK’s management team does not have the required skills to handle crises effectively"!!!! Give me a break! I bet 10 random picked China stocks will outperform Hsu in the short time and will burn just as fast when the panic hits the street. Who here remembers the best analysts of the dot com era?
The best analysts of the dot com era, (oh, I hate to say this) Jim Cramer. I don't like the guy, I do not chose his picks and I think he is a pompous A**. That said, he is above some of the newsletter touter's picks. I would expect he might grab at LDK once it hits $60.
There is the "Tape" and there is momentum trades. They do well, if you are skilled or lucky. Getting out of a trade is as important as when you enter. I like to leave early on most trades, I do not need to make all the money. As well I am often early on the Macro view of sectors and investments long term. Asking myself the trend 10 years from now in my review of a company gives me time and advantage. What I am learning is how to make that viewpoint meet the market in a 12-18 month time frame.
There is something interesting happening with the markets here at home currently, and I think 70% of the investors will miss this due to myopic views and daily doses of financial performance reviews by the "experts".
Heydex16 a couple of things first the Barron’s article seems to indicate that a large proportion of the inventory is wholly unsuitable for what LDK produces which means that its valuation is overstated. The inventory in question might not have a zero value but if its junk for your manufacturing process and only has a scrap value then the valuation difference is likely significant. You mentioned that write down is negotiable and that is true to a certain extent but both KPMG and LDK have to adhere to GAAP. Hopefully KPMG’s report will clear matters up.
Mike 99 I wouldn’t be to concern with LDK management background wasn’t in the solar power manufacturing field since this is a nascent industry. What concerns me is this issue seems to be putting LDK’s management integrity In question. In my case that’s a huge red flag and I am staying away from it but as you can tell from other posts other people have a different take on it.
Nope not short LDK. And I rarely take short postions on anything. I can recall maybe 2 short postions in the last 3 years. Fact is I don't like the extra factors beyond my control to add risk to shorting positions.
I actually owed LDK at one time and made a gain. Sold to quickly so not as big as it should of been but those are the breaks.
I am just stating what I see and what I deduced from that. Might be totally wrong, won't be the first or the last time.
I found some of your comments interesting and I note that you can still turn a profit on this whether or not the allegations are true. Me I'll look elsewhere for now.
Fair enough Gukdorak, and yes, nobody can be totally right about this unless they are trading from the inside. I can say I have little faith in LDK's management, but do like their taste in auditors. Things can be hid from auditors, so that's a variable. I have a stop out at 5% above my cost, so as to avoid damage or ruin to my portfolio, but my entry was at a very low point. Overall though it seems as if they would have taken ownership of this if it were a problem, given the contarct log they are building on.