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    • CommentAuthorslowpoke
    • CommentTimeMay 29th 2007
     Report Post# 1
    This one has me stumped. Has anyone figured it out yet?

    The World's Greatest Retirement Stock

    http://www.agorafinancial.com/Product_FreemarketInvestor.html
  1.  Report Post# 2
    I've looked at this one before and had some trouble, too -- he just doesn't give much in the way of specifics. I'll have to take another gander.
    • CommentAuthorjg
    • CommentTimeMay 29th 2007
     Report Post# 3
    I think it could be a South American pension fund and that is why it is so hard to track down. These funds replaced the state's pension plan and workers are pretty much obliged to keep contributing. Some of them you can own directly (they list as ADRs) but the suggested stock may be one of the management firms.

    Here is a longer teaser for the same stock:
    http://www.isecureonline.com/Reports/OSS/EOSSH502/

    I still cannot figure out the actual company. I'd have thought this line from the link above will help though:
    "Last year, on a $25.69 share price, this company paid a dividend of $2.42."
  2.  Report Post# 4
    Thanks for pulling that data out -- I've got it now, I'll write it up today for the site.

    Cheers,
    SG
  3.  Report Post# 5
    OK, it's up on the site now if you're interested: http://www.stockgumshoe.com/2007/05/secret-pension-payout-plan.html

    Enjoy! And share your opinions on this one if you've got them, it's certainly an intriguing investment.
    • CommentAuthorSLI_Rich
    • CommentTimeMay 31st 2007
     Report Post# 6
    I don't know about specific government-mandated pension ADR's, but one of the ADR's mentioned by the Weiss group last year was BBD (Banco-something), the largest private-owned do-it-all banking/services in Brazil, like a South American USAA or citigroup, with banking, insurance, and what they call "certificated" pension plans.
    Since their recommendation, I believe that ADR is up like 50% (since last summer), but I personally like trading the Brazil ETF instead (EWZ) since I'm not buying for income-leave-it-alone just yet. EWZ is WAY up and can be traded with limits, trailing stops, etc. in regular trading accounts or within your IRA, and Brazil is booming with better stats than the US. *Though there are then no "dividends" since it's not that kind of individual holding.
  4.  Report Post# 7
    FYI: BBD is Banco Bradesco, BBV is Banco Bilbao, those are the two big Brazilian banks that trade as ADRs. Thanks for the comment. I've been loving my shares of GOL and SDA, non-financial companies in Brazil, but that's a whole different topic. Brazil seems to me like a sleeping giant -- their stocks have performed incredibly well even without any broader economic growth in the country ... now that it looks like economic growth might come, too, look out above.

    I wrote broadly about Brazil on my other site back in January, FYI: http://oneguysinvestments.com/2007/01/what-if-brazil-really-started-to-grow.html