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    This new discussion is about Steve Sjuggerud's DailyWealth offer to identify a government backed investment in what they call "virtual banks". It was mailed to me following signup with Stansberry Research >customerservice@stansberryresearch.com< (see other discussion on this general service).

    I.e from the letter pitch:

    > We call these small banks, "virtual banks." Why? Because they aren't like typical banks at all. They don't have typical bank buildings. They don't have tellers. Or guards. Heck, there's no vault to guard. There are not ATM machines... no customers. You see, these 'banks' aren't really banks at all... but rather simple corporations designed to access the government's cash handout program.

    After all, these virtual banks can make investments that are "guaranteed by an agency of the U.S. government or by a U.S. government sponsored enterprise (GSE)."
    And here's the great news for you and me...

    Some of these "virtual banks" trade on the New York Stock Exchange (NYSE), which allows you to make a fortune from this government boondoggle.

    * Virtual Bank #1 is based in New York. It has fewer than 40 employees. They don't have any ATMs... they don't offer savings accounts or checking accounts. All they do is cash in on the "Economic Security Fund" giveaway, originally organized by the U.S. government.

    In roughly the past year, this company has made $220 million... and during a recent 4-year span, returned 518%, including 109% in dividends.

    * Virtual Bank #2 is also based in New York, and has just 15 employees. Again—they don't offer any typical banking products. But they make a fortune thanks in part to this government loophole. They've made $15 million in the past 12 months. And during a recent 4-year span, have paid 368% total gains... including 34% in dividends.

    * Virtual Bank #3 is based in California, and is worth about $400 million. They have just 11 employees. Incredible. But that doesn't stop them from making millions, especially when the stock market is risky. During a recent two-and-a-half-year period, this virtual bank paid investors gains of 461%, including more than 100% in dividends.

    * Virtual Bank #4 is based in Texas. They have just 12 employees, and during one three-and-a-half-year period, paid investors gains of 327%, including 140% in dividends.

    As you can see, these are not ordinary banks whatsoever. They hardly have any expenses. They have just a few employees... and yet they make hundreds of millions of dollars a year.

    Like I said, they're not really banks at all... but rather little-known corporations that are set up to take advantage of the biggest corporate welfare program in America.

    Most of the time, people in the financial world pay little attention to these "virtual banks." But during times of uncertainty, they become extremely important—one of the simplest and safest ways to make money.

    Oh... there's one more thing I haven't mentioned about these "virtual banks"...

    They don't pay federal taxes.

    Thanks to a tax break from the IRS, these Virtual Banks don't pay a penny to Uncle Sam, as long as they pay out 90% or more of their profits to shareholders (that's you and me).

    As the Wall Street Journal reported: These virtual banks "aren't taxed themselves, providing they pay out at least 90% of their taxable income. That means fat dividends for shareholders..."

    The point is, you can put just some of your money into these cash machines over the next few years, and safely make a fortune—while everyone else has to worry about real estate prices, and a risky stock market.<

    Has anyone signed up for this report and what is your impression? Is there a better definition for a "virtual bank"?
    • CommentAuthorhedy1234
    • CommentTimeAug 28th 2007
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    For the money Sjuggerud's True Wealth is a very good service. It is value based, contrarian thinking. It is generally a buy and hold approach with 25% trailing (mental) stops. He has four categories of investments and 28 open positions. In the first three categories which have 20 recommendations only one is under water (-4%).

    In his higher risk last catergory he calls market speculations he has 5 underwater out of 8 picks this biggest loser being -12%.

    A pretty good track record overall. I like the service.
    • CommentAuthorrbcn
    • CommentTimeAug 28th 2007
     Report Post# 3
    The "Virtual Bank" is Annaly Capital Management (NLY) If the Fed. government bails out the housing sector by lowering interest rates, NLY will do quite well. Sjuggerud's True Wealth has been the best investment letter I've read. This is out of probably 15/18 letters over the last 3 years.
  2.  Report Post# 4
    i subscribe to True Wealth as well. The recommendations Hedy is referring to are open recommendations, which does not include closed ones. Sjuggerand offered up NLY about 9 months ago, only to close it out at a loss. So be careful of those statistics.

    Sjuggerud is generally quite conservative. I have found his newsletter to more go to capital preservation, limiting the loss. All in All, it is a very good buy. His best picks he puts in Sjuggerand Confidential, which is considerably higher. If it's really good, he seems to put it in Confidential first, and mention it in True Wealth a month later.
    • CommentAuthor4ls
    • CommentTimeSep 4th 2007
     Report Post# 5
    what are the other 3 banks?
  3.  Report Post# 6
    The latest Sjuggerud offer came to me in the US Mail, entitled the NOTICS OF YOUR RIGHT TO SHARE IN "PINCHOT RETIREMENT PLAN" MONTHLY CHECKS. The come on describes 5 companies on the stock market that follow the "Pinchot plan" for land use and development. The "Pinchot Plan" is described as a government approved investment wherein no federal taxes are paid by the companies in return to guaranteeing that 90% of their taxable income to the investors. This then results in large dividends being paid back to the stock owners.

    The newsletter being sold is the True Wealth monthly letter plus the DailyWealth emailing service (discussed elsewhere in this forum) and a complete disclosure of the companies alluded to plus a couple of other "goody" reports.

    I going to try and slueth these REITs, but perhaps someone already has done so or is privy to the report they're willing to share.
  4.  Report Post# 7
    Inspector, I can give you two of them.
    The first is PCL, Plum Creek Lumber. He's been hawking it for a few months. Has a 4% divident at this point, but he's really hawking the value of the lumber, etc.
    Another is Timber West, symbol twf-un.to. It trades on the canadian Toronto exchange, and has a 7% dividend. However, the most recent newsletter (September) recommended it as a sell at this point. A lot of it has to do with him being skittish about commodities in general.
    KYN is another one that loosely fits the land use and development phrase. It's not a REIT, but returns a 6% dividend. He's had it on the list for a few months.
    Also, in addition to NLY, he's now recommending MFA instead, as you can buy it (at time of writing) at a discount.
  5.  Report Post# 8
    A number of contributions to the Gumshoe seem to be related and therefore are much the same animal with different clothes. The tying factor seems to be the Oxford Club (abbrev TOC)

    From the web site of Investment U (http://www.investmentu.com/aboutiu/IUFaculty.html) here are credentials of various faculty members:

    >>Alexander Green, Chairman, INVESTMENT U (IU); Investment Director, TOC

    At the height of the stock market boom in the late 1990s, Alexander Green walked away from a prestigious position with one of the country's leading money-management firms - retiring from Wall Street after 16 years at the ripe old age of 43. He returned more than half of a $510,000 signing bonus. That's when he became Investment Director for IU's premium stock advisory service, TOC- a private financial organization dedicated to building and preserving the wealth of its members, independent of Wall Street's dubious influence.

    The HULBERT FINANCIAL DIGEST, the industry's top watchdog, has since ranked Alex's stock selections 3rd in the nation overall, based on their five-year, risk-adjusted return. Learn more. When Alex isn't making money for TOC members, or giving Investment U readers free advice, his knowledge is in high demand. He's been profiled on Forbes.com, written for Louis Rukeyser and several other leading financial publications, and was recently featured on the Fox News' 'The O'Reilly Factor.' He's also a top-rated speaker at financial conferences around the country.

    Dr. Mark Skousen became chairman of Investment U in October 2005. He is an economist who has taught finance and economics at Columbia Business School, Barnard College at Columbia University, and Rollins College in Winter Park, FL. Dr. Skousen is editor in chief of Forecasts & Strategies--an award-winning investment newsletter - and three trading services. In April 2005, Grantham University honored Dr. Skousen by renaming its School of Business "The Mark Skousen School of Business." In 2001-02, he was president of the Foundation of Economic Education (FEE) in New York. From 1972-75, Dr. Skousen was an economic analyst for the CIA. Since then, he has been a consultant to IBM, Hutchinson Technology and other Fortune 500 companies. He was also a columnist for Forbes magazine from 1997-01, and has written articles for The Wall Street Journal, Liberty, Reason, and The Journal of Economic Perspectives. He has appeared on ABC News, CNBC Power Lunch, CNN, Fox News and C-SPAN Book TV.

    It was under Ms. Julia Guth's direction that Dr. Sjuggerud became the chairman of IU in 2001 followed by Dr. Skousen in 2005 and Alexander Green in 2007. Since founding IU in 1999, Ms. Guth has worked side by side with Dr. Sjuggerud and Dr. Skousen to develop the initial Investment U seminars, the IU course, an upcoming advanced IU seminar after the e-letter first landed in 2001. In addition to her duties as IU publisher, she's also been the executive director of The OTOC for 14 years. For readers of Investment U and members of TOC, she is a tireless advocate for their respective goals and values. Ms. Guth holds an MBA from Thunderbird, The American Graduate School of International Management. A former specialist for Maryland's Office of International Trade, Ms. Guth was also an investment services representative for one of the country's leading financial services firms.

    This discussion concludes in the following post.
  6.  Report Post# 9
    Continuing on the same theme about the relationship of various investment advisory services:

    Dr. Steve Sjuggerud served as the chairman of IU from the inaugural issue in December 2001 through October 2005, penning more than 400 IU e-letter issues. Dr. Sjuggerud is also the editor of TRUE WEALTH, one of the fastest-growing investment newsletters in the country. He's a former investment director of TOC and an expert on global investing and emerging-market currencies. During his far-reaching investment career, Dr. Sjuggerud ran a global mutual fund, directed his own offshore hedge fund, and served as the research director for an international investment advisory firm. In addition, he's often quoted in places like WSJ.com and Barron's.

    Dr. Van K. Tharp has been a peak performance coach for investors and traders since 1982. He is the only trading coach featured by Jack Schwager in his best-seller The Market Wizards: Interviews with Great Traders. He is the founder of Investment Psychology, Van K. Tharp Associates and the INTERNATIONAL INSTITUTE OF TRADING MASTERY. Over the last 12 years, Dr. Tharp has collected profiles on more than 4,000 investors and traders, consolidating over a decade of research to determine how the most successful investors and traders get their results. He received his Ph.D. in psychology in 1975, and is an expert in the use of NeuroLinguistic Programming (NLP) for creating trading models.

    In addition to managing the IU E-Letter and related resources, Managing Editor Alex Williams is also an editor for one of the world's most distinguished associations of private investors, TOC. Prior to joining the IU team, Alex served as the news editor of a daily newspaper in Southwest Virginia, as well as a researcher and writer for a renewable resources non-governmental organization in Washington, D.C. He is also a former investment advisor for one of the largest U.S. regional banks.<<

    Therefore, in our discussions, keep in mind that:
    Dr. Steve Sjuggerud = DealyWeath = True Weath = Oxford Club = INVESTMENT U = HULBERT FINANCIAL DIGEST = INTERNATIONAL INSTITUTE OF TRADING MASTERY = Alexander Green = Dr. Mark Skousen = Julia Guth = Dr. Van K. Tharp = Alex Williams

    While these may appear to be separate entities, they probably meet together regularly for victory dinners on the number of subscribers they have garnered. (There may be other links if anyone else has discovered it...lay it on us.
    Thankful People: investoman
    • CommentAuthormbafb
    • CommentTimeDec 10th 2007
     Report Post# 10
    I subscribe to True Wealth and Steve has preach Gold buys for years. I did not buy any of his gold recommendations. But they have done well. What I did was learn why he recomended them and found really good deals at my much smaller budget. I made 300% and could have made 890% if I had waited. Should have rememberd Steve's famous take some profits and let some ride.

    True Wealth is not only an advisory service, but Steve teaches in every one. Info that you can learn remember and repeat.

    And it's only $99 so why not just subscribe.
    • CommentAuthorVernD
    • CommentTimeDec 10th 2007
     Report Post# 11
    Has anyone listened to Steves new webcast only where he talks about "two bank" opportunities that were just too small to mention in front of a such a large audience? One stock is less than $3.00 a share and expects a 3oo% return. Another I believe is a mutual fund of financials. He does mention KRE and ITB but won't disclose the other two unless you subscribe to Sjuggerud Confidential. Any insight from Steve's followers?
    • CommentAuthorHexdek16
    • CommentTimeDec 11th 2007
     Report Post# 12
    I particularly like the ITB (aside from picking bottoms) if it trades bellow $15.50 again in might be something to pick up for the return. I like the mix of builders and given the relative weakness of the housing market & companies that make the basket it is a compelling investment.
  7.  Report Post# 13
    True Wealth subscriber. Like his ideas and he has made me money.
    His timing seems to be early. Now have a habit of waiting before I buy.
    • CommentAuthortrebads
    • CommentTimeMay 7th 2008
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    I just Got the strictly limited- tease from him called the -billionaires secret Calle the Skousen hedge fund trader, of course limited to 2000 members ,top seceret anyone out there know what he is touting? thanks Bob
  8.  Report Post# 15
    I have subscribed to the free Daily Wealth newsletter for a few years now. I have noticed a disturbing tendency by Dr. Sjuggerud to market high risk investments as low risk. If they work out, he loves to flaunt the numbers. If they crash and burn, you will not hear a peep. The best example is what happened in Iceland. Daily Wealth had dozens of articles that were pushing Icelandic government bonds in 2005-2007. When it all blew up last year, not a word about it in Daily Wealth. I have documented everything in a new article on my site - check it out: Beware of False Prophets.
    • CommentAuthorBrdimkr
    • CommentTimeJun 10th 2009
     Report Post# 16
    This is from Steve Sjuggerud's "True Wealth" newsletter:

    "In short: There's a U.S. Treasury Dept-created "glitch" in the gold markets, which could give you gains of 665% or more after gold prices rise. You could see these gains no matter what happens to stocks or the overall economy... and with almost zero risk.

    I can practically guarantee you will not see this opportunity discussed in any newspaper or on any television program. And I'm sure you won't hear about it from any broker or advisor.

    But right now, because gold demand has increased, and prices have risen, you can safely make a fortune... even if you've never bought a currency, stock, or gold investment before.

    In fact, you need only about $200 to get started. But you don't need a brokerage account or even a bank account."




    Is he referring to options????
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