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    • CommentAuthorPatches
    • CommentTimeJun 22nd 2007 edited
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    I paid the $99 recently for the Stansberry Research reports. I was wondering of anyone else has used their stock tips and if so, have you had good success or bad?
    • CommentAuthorOneshy
    • CommentTimeJun 22nd 2007
     Report Post# 2
    I've subscribed to the Daily Wealth for the last year. They are up 14% for the yr. They are a contrarian type and leave it up to you when to get in and out. They have 3 or 4 different levels up to $995/yr for their premium advice. You will receive a daily email with their outlook on the economy.
    • CommentAuthornewshidden
    • CommentTimeJun 22nd 2007
     Report Post# 3
    stansberry all good stuff, use the information to make your own decisions
    • CommentAuthorPatches
    • CommentTimeJun 22nd 2007
     Report Post# 4
    Thanks for the feedback, although with all the guaranteed easy money they predict, you would think they would be up more than 14% for the year. Definitely some good leads worth looking into, so I guess that's worth the subscription. I only have the $99, but I would be curious if anyone has paid the 1K for premium and if it has paid off.
    • CommentAuthornewshidden
    • CommentTimeJun 24th 2007
     Report Post# 5
    all the premium stuff is good, i get it all and its all great info to help you with ideas....as always buyer beware and don't put all your eggs in one basket
    • CommentAuthoreurusd
    • CommentTimeJun 25th 2007
     Report Post# 6
    hallo guyssssss!!!
    I'm here to spend only good words for stansberry!!!
    I've got many subscriptions...and every mounth I'm waiting for the new issues...
    they are great guys...never found so accurate reports...even if sometimes they don't consider the bed aspects of a pick (icelands bonds 4 exemple!!!)
    i've got the truewealth subscription, psia, oil report 12%letter, medical investor, pennyletter....and I don't remember the others...NO REGREAT!!!
    if u need to uncover the names of company do not esitate!!!!ASK ME FOR IT!!!
    but plse help me with the most expansive subscription they have...PHASE 1...don't waqnt to spend that amount of money... ;(((((
    I know some of the company they cover in it (such as YMI, ARENA PHARMA, SANGAMO BIOSCIENCES, IDENIX pharma...) but I miss many others....
    • CommentAuthoreurusd
    • CommentTimeJun 25th 2007
     Report Post# 7
    oh if you want to know some picks from miningspeculator here I am... ;))))
    • CommentAuthorjohng
    • CommentTimeJun 27th 2007
     Report Post# 8
    Subscribed to Stansberry about a month ago. They may have good tips, but my impresson so far is that it's mostly all ads for you to buy more services and reports. I would have spent quite a bit more money if I kept saying yes!
  1.  Report Post# 9
    hey guys, greeting from california.
    been with stansberry since january, on the $$ 99 subsc. their ideas are fantastic, but I honestly think you
    only make money with the expensive subs.
    as for me, I haven't made any money yet. I am giving them a year.
    • CommentAuthorspace_ll
    • CommentTimeJun 27th 2007 edited
     Report Post# 10
    I've been sleuthing teaser emails since 1998 when I was getting teasers from taipan, flying v and a ton of others.. there's no need to pay expensive news letter fees, when you can sleuth them out yourself, and besides most of the picks aren't even worth investing.

    I've had the $50 news letter up to the $5,000 ones

    There's one news letter that's $50 a year I've had for 9 yrs so I've paid $450 and it was well worth it, that's why I keep renewing it year after year, they don't boast all this ridiculous bs about making 100 times your money over the next 12 months, but they do make prediction before mainstream catches on and most of their picks are over the long run.

    I've paid the high price news letter just to see all their picks and follow them. I had the Stansberry all the S & A short report, oil, gold etc etc , it wasn't that great, sure they had big winners but its not like you put all your money on the big one because you don't know which one it will be so you end up put a little into every pick and you don't end up that much ahead. but they do refund money if you cancel.

    The option hotline is the worst and so misleading they claim 1 or 2 losers out of their 52 option picks a year,, 50 is a winner, hahaha its more like everyone of their picks is a loser, I know for fact because I followed it for almost a year.

    I would have to say the $50 dollar a year subscriptions is way better, it turned 100,000 into 368,000 in 9 yrs , so I average 30K a year, not too bad considering I had some considerable losses from options and bio techs recommends from other pricey NL, So this $50 a year news letter "outstanding investments" kept my portfolio afloat. I have how ever moved $40k over to small caps, and the rest is still invested with OSI picks. I was invested in natural resources over the last 9 years, way back when not too many people were talking about Gold, oil, and other N.R. but O.I. was recommending gold mining co. in the 90's when gold was under the radar still .

    You don't need to buy expensive news letters to find good stocks, trust me, I wasted more then a few grand on news letters just to see what the other picks were, I didn't buy because of the teasers, the teaser are mostly easy to find I paid for the news letters to see their other picks and follow. I almost lost my shirt on the expensive news letters picks.

    I can tell you that stansberry and agora will refund your money if you call them and ask them to before the deadline is up, I even paid $5,000 on one of agoras news letter the financial reserve which was pretty good but not worth 5K,

    Stansberry is a big joke, they hype everything up in their teasers and also flood you with even more teaser to entice you to buy more of their services and to tell you the truth none of their picks are much good, they flood you with so much picks that their bound to have a few great ones, but with all the losers it does you no good!!

    Agoras outstanding Investments is only $50 a yr and they saved my portfolio. I would of had way more money if I would of just stuck with only their picks.

    I would like to find a good micro cap news letter though if anybody knows of one? Most of my money is tied up with Agoras O.I. but I've have some set aside for small caps.
    • CommentAuthorTraderStar
    • CommentTimeJun 29th 2007
     Report Post# 11
    My experience with Stansberry ... OK for long term investors or those with some extra cash they can put into slow growth stocks (and ride out some downside). Not recommended for active (swing) traders. More recommendations on my site: http://traderstar,com (free info for new traders, not a commercial site)
    • CommentAuthorjski82
    • CommentTimeJun 30th 2007
     Report Post# 12
    Stansberry new teaser is for "US 810k's" $25 can potentially turn into big profits by reinvesting dividends. Anyone check this out???
    • CommentAuthorrecycler
    • CommentTimeJul 1st 2007
     Report Post# 13
    As a retired guy I'm attracted to dividend paying stocks so I paid the $500 for the S&A Dividend Grabber because it sounded like a novel concept with potential. I cancelled after about 6 weeks. IMHO they didn't have their act together. Couldn't make up their minds whether to recommend buying the stock just before the div or the day it goes xdiv, or whether to claim the "big profits" would come in 3 months or 1 year. After buying some of their recommendations and watching performance of several others, I concluded their entire concept is flawed. I was thankful to get my subscription fee back in a couple days.

    I also subscribe to the Oil report and I've made money on some of their picks - maybe a third of them - but I think some of their recommendations are "lifetime" holdings and others are to be held a year or more, so it's tough to really judge this newsletter in just a month or two.
    • CommentAuthorasx
    • CommentTimeJul 4th 2007
     Report Post# 14
    The two Jeff Clark publications are quite good. Short Report has had some great options picks this year.
    • CommentAuthorblueman
    • CommentTimeJul 4th 2007
     Report Post# 15
    spacell, thanks for the info you put up about newsletters. I'm new at trading and getting a little dizzy with all this info, which I spend way to much time trying to read through, only ending up getting more indecisive than before I started. Gumshoe is refreshing but I'm not able to understand all of what's written yet. aaaaaaaaaarrrgh. I've tried to find Agoras that you subscribe to, but with no success. HELP
    Thanks blueman
    • CommentAuthorspace_ll
    • CommentTimeJul 5th 2007 edited
     Report Post# 16
    Your welcome blueman , and that was my experience, So it doesn't mean that Stansberry isn't good, It just wasnt good for me at the time I was following it, for about a year.. also Outstanding investment's is mostly long term stocks, but they sure called it right back in late 90's and early part of this decade with all their gold and natural resource picks, like CDE at $1.31 back in 2002 and we sold recently for $5 in 2007, or VLO in 2003 at $10.12 and we are still holding at over $74.00 we got sumcor energy ( SU ) bought at $12.69 back in 2001 and still holding at over $91.00 this is just a few, but as you can see their long term and we still are holding allot of stocks and most still have buy recommends even the ones that are up over 500%, So as you can see OSI is buy and hold mostly, that's why ive been bored lately and feel like gambling on small caps with a portion of my money.

    You couldn't find OS? just go to www.argorafinancial.com I could give you all their picks if you want just let me know? we had 6 sell's in 2006 +83%, -50%, -27%, -32%, +141% , +1%, we have four holds and 22 buys that are old and new.

    here is a list of gain/loss of the 22 that are still buys 10%, 132%, -22%, 531%, 149%, 419%, -10%, 69%, 59%, 30%, 30%, 8%, -4%, 393%, 281%,57%, 43%, 80%, 173%,76%, 15%, 52%, 24%, 35%, 45%, 8%.. The four holds are 59%, 30%, -4%, 15%, .. So you can see that if you put a equal amount of money into each pick you will be way ahead of the game. whoops I wrote the % from a dec 2006 issue but I looked at the may 2007 % + -% and its similar, I just dont feel like re-writing all again lol sorry.
    • CommentAuthormaxbid
    • CommentTimeJul 5th 2007
     Report Post# 17
    I couldn't fine www.orgorafinancial.com but i did find www.agorafinancial.com/ , is that the one? Would like to see a list of current buys, it would be appreciated.
    • CommentAuthorblueman
    • CommentTimeJul 5th 2007
     Report Post# 18
    spacell, thanks again, you obviously know your way around these sights, it's good that there are real people (assuming you are) out there willing to share some of their knowledge with us tinkering newbies.
    like maxbid I couldn't find orgorafinancial either but came up with agorafinancial if that's the one, I'd like to take a peek at the buys especially after the numbers you posted.
    blueman
  2.  Report Post# 19
    Regarding Stansberry's "801K" teaser that jsk182 mentions, I just put up a post on the first two of his eight teased companies (and the 801K term -- Stansberry's folks seem to really love inventing fake names for things): http://www.stockgumshoe.com/2007/07/us-801k-plans-double-returns-from-401ks.html
    • CommentAuthorrrmjr2
    • CommentTimeJul 7th 2007
     Report Post# 20
    Thanks for your info, spaceman_11. I recently subscribed to the S&A Penny Newsletter and it has some interesting recommends for the first few months of the year. One of my pals gets the O.I. newsletter and it seems pretty good.
    I just joined the forum today and it looks like a great resource.
    • CommentAuthorspace_ll
    • CommentTimeJul 7th 2007 edited
     Report Post# 21
    Yes I can post the current buys recommends if it's allowed? Im not sure if it is? ask the gumshoe , if he says yes? then I will, I'M just not sure of the copywrite laws or the news letter policies of subscribers posting all their picks on the web? or If the gumshoe allows it? I'M fairly new here also. It's funny how I found this site. I was actually sleuthing a teaser I got recently for (range resources) and when I was googling some key phrases from the teaser the first on the search list came up with the stockgumshoe listing of the teaser along with the answer (rrs) I couldnt believe my eyes? there was the same teaser along with the answer and that's my story on how I found this great website. I was all alone b4 sluething at the begining and since I was fully invested over the past several years I wasn't sleuthing for a while, otherwise maybe I could of found this great site b4, I'm not sure how old this site is? but I 1st started sleuthing out teasers around '98 or '99 and wish it was around then. their must of been other people sleuthing back then or even b4 because as soon as I started getting teasers with high price fee's? I started to search for the answer because I didnt want to pay $1500 for the stock name..although I did subscribe to a few $1000 and even $5,000 nl over the last 2 yrs but have since canceled or gotton refunds, and Ive always had the OI news letter for 9yrs, anyway sluething is much easyer now because of the gumshoe and all the people here sluething together.
  3.  Report Post# 22
    I am a newby to investing. I subscribe to Stansberry, penny stocks, gold picks and daily wealth and Martin Weiss. I have only been investing for 5 weeks and have Freeman Mc Moran(FCX) which is up 20%. I have about 3 stocks that are down slightly and 11 that are up. So all in all I am pleased. I am so thrilled to have stumbled on Gumshoe. I too was looking for USG form 4 info. and found you through Google. Keep up the good work.

    Does anyone have any info on Nutra Cea?(OTB:NTRZ). I have found a couple of different investment recommendations on it.
    • CommentAuthorHexdek16
    • CommentTimeJul 8th 2007
     Report Post# 23
    Hawaiiaussie,

    I have a small position in NTRZ. I just missed on tripling my initial position this past week when the stock closed at $2.99. There is several compelling articles on it as well I have gotten small 'glints' of useful information subscribing to the Yahoo forum group for this company. I am disappointed at the moment that I own so little of it as I do. (Note to Self: Actionable Item) I need to revisit my valuation(s) short term in growth & build out. Here is a link to several articles from a useful research site I use for market news. I like it as much as I like what Stock Gumshoe has done with this forum & his teaser blog. They are both Excellent! I do not give that rating lightly, as I tend to be a critical person when it comes to informational content. As for Nutra I have researched the pro & con arguments for this stock and am satisfied to say this has a Long successful future ahead of it. Read for yourself, study the arguments I think you'll see merit it it's current operations & future growth.

    Regards.
    http://seekingalpha.com/by/symbol/ntrz.ob
  4.  Report Post# 24
    I am an Alliance member and have mixed feelings about the worth. You can be overwhelmed by advice from so many publications and cannot own all the stocks recommended. i have had very mixed results with Short Report and have more losers than winners. There is much pump and dump after each recommendation and I have never been able to buy at the price the stock has closed at the night before. Waiting some days may help but the early easy speculative money for the active trader is gone. Stansberry is really for the long term investor and on the positive side their coverage of worldwide opportunities is very good but their research is not always foolproof. I have found their customer service totally lacking in a reasonable response. You ask a question and receive a response based upon some faceless persons interpretation of your question. I asked when they issued a sell on GM as I am still down thousands and they responded 'we are not able to give advice.' It was a big loser for them and the response was no response!!
    • CommentAuthorHexdek16
    • CommentTimeJul 14th 2007
     Report Post# 25
    "Waiting some days may help but the early easy speculative money for the active trader is gone." I believe your first half of the response has the best (of your own) 'advise" you may need, the "waiting" is the hardest part....(sounds like a song I know) When I come across a 'compelling' story of a particular company or their product which has a strong moat around it technology, patent(s) or business model niche it is often after the cat has left the bag. Years ago I would chase the stock or story excited to have the shares "at any price" because it was so compelling! (or so I thought) After years of discipline (to which I still get taken to the woodshed on occasion) I realized "it's about the money stupid!" not the bid/ask, jump,buy.....high of stock ownership. Now I've learn to wait on "my price" it may not be the right price or it may not be the best price, though once emotion is set aside it is the price I am willing to invest with a reasonable shot at gains. AKA The Money. Not an easy discipline, once mastered it will serve you well as you invest in the future - I call it the "Monro Effect" I.E. "I'm not going to pay allot for this muffler" If your old enough to remember those commercials, you'll know what I mean. Many of the exciting stocks do generate big gains as their first teased out, oft to dizzying heights of double digit gains - would've,should've,could've I say, but if I didn't - I didn't when it comes to forethought on investing at the "right" time. 8 out of 10, maybe 6 out of 10......ok let's let's say the statistics are far worse 2 out of 10 times, only 2 a stock comes down or 'retrenches' to the level I would have jumped it at before. Now I've done my HW, DD and if the story, management and fundamentals remain the same I can now make a rational, educated and sane decision. I am not the brightest man though (sharpest tack in the pack so to speak) some of my research is based on what I refer to as SWAG Theory. (Scientific Wild Ass Guessing) I once thought that was a bad thing, then I realized these teaser folks, analysts ....the experts they guess too. It's ok, if every stock was a slam dunk or a 10 bagger, we'd all be rich. I settle for well off, soon maybe another 10 or 15 years the title of wealthy. I like wealthy, a rich man has many problems and many worries. True wealth, well that's a different story for another time. Regards.
    Thankful People: hpantely
    • CommentAuthorHexdek16
    • CommentTimeJul 14th 2007
     Report Post# 26
    Ps NTRZ closed at $2.98 Friday. The ship came in..............all aboard! or if your worried "all ashore whose going ashore". Regards.
  5.  Report Post# 27
    Thanks for the kind words, folks. To answer a few questions that were in there: whether or not you want to "reveal" the stocks that newsletters you subscribe to are recommending is entirely up to you. I tend to think it's unfair for paying subscribers to reveal those stocks to non-payers en masse, but it's not illegal and I won't prevent it. Personally, the few stock teaser solutions that I know for "unfair" reasons because I happened to subscribe to a service years ago, I won't publish. I like to think of this as a game that I try to play by the rules, which for me means using public information to ferret out solutions to teasers. I don't insist that you follow my rules, however.

    Names of stocks aren't copyrighted, so it's not a violation to share them -- the text of an advisor's recommendation would be, however, so please keep that to yourself or, if the publisher allows it, quote a limited amount.

    StockGumshoe.com has only been publishing since March of this year, and I think I opened up the forum in May or so -- before that, I did this same stuff but kept it to myself. Seemed more fun to share, and plus this way we all get to find out about some interesting companies. No one of us can solve 'em all, but together there won't be too many secrets.

    It's been a real pleasure watching the site and this forum grow to include so many knowledgeable, helpful and entertaining investors. Continued good luck, everyone.
    • CommentAuthorspace_ll
    • CommentTimeJul 14th 2007 edited
     Report Post# 28
    Very good points Gumshoe

    I don't think it would do anybody any good if I posted all of outstanding investment picks here, allot of them have current buys on them still, even the ones up 100% or 500% over the past several. having the symbols only, wouldn't tell you much, it would be better to see the entry date price when they were first recommended, and read about everything they wrote about.

    also outstanding investments has been very good to me over the years and its only a $49.00 yr news letter so any body could afford that, and gumshoe is right it wouldn't be fare to the news letters.I try to be a fare person in life also. it's the only NL I subscribe to at the moment.

    there's plenty of teasers out there and plenty of us here at the gumshoe to sleuth them out in a honorable fashion to keep us knee deep in stock picks, so no need to post a $49 NL. portfolio.
    • CommentAuthorjimsavant
    • CommentTimeJul 15th 2007
     Report Post# 29
    Stansberry True Wealth has been a disappointment on several fronts for me. First, there were not nearly enough new trades to provide diversity. Second, the returns over the last year have been paltry. Third, the trades were all over the map-gold coins, timber, icelandic bonds....... If you are looking for new trades and more recommendations with better short and long term returns you might investigate the offerings from Ferris or Fannon from the sames publisher. If you want to shop around, one strategy might be to pay the subscription fee and imagine that you had put 1000 in each of their investment buy recommendations over the last year then calculate the implied profit. On that basis, if you cannot acheive at least the s and p average, you are paying a premium over a decent mutual fund or etf.
    • CommentAuthorlago748
    • CommentTimeJul 15th 2007
     Report Post# 30
    spaceII I went to AgoraFinancial.com. Looks like good site. They have alot of offers. Can you tell me which specifically is the $49.00 service you have been subscribing to for the past several years with all the great picks you mentioned. They have one service for $99.00 called the Free Market Investor, is that it??? and another Hotline Options service for $995.00! Thanks for your help and reply. Lago748.
    • CommentAuthorspace_ll
    • CommentTimeJul 15th 2007
     Report Post# 31
    Outstanding Investments
    • CommentAuthorTraderStar
    • CommentTimeJul 16th 2007
     Report Post# 32
    I agree with space11 that if a service is a moderate price and has decent picks, then they deserve the money and people should subscribe on their own. Gumshoe, I believe, was started because of those services that want thousands of dollars a year in subscriptions and send out 'teasers' for secret stocks that will turn 10k into a million in 6 months .. guaranteed. I used to decode those on my own and have no problem with a forum like this where we can pool our efforts to decode these teasers. IMO if I was so good at picking winning stocks that I could ask for 2 or 3k or more per year .. I would occasionally give a freebie, telling people .. play this one and with your profit, subscribe to my service.
    That would be proof that the service has something to offer.
    Instead the teasers keep coming .. I have decoded many secret stocks, played quite a few and lost on more than I have gained .. just a couple of them turned into real winners. For the most part, they seem to be simply hype... but I keep de-coding just in case one day there will be a new little TASR or HANS or VLO or similar among them.
    I pay for subscriptions to Breakaway investor and Green Chip Stocks .. GCS has been just OK and Breakaway I am just trying for $49 a year, so far not impressed with their picks. I think I will try the Outstanding Investments one as space seems to have had good luck with that one.
    I don't mind services up to $200 a year .. but above that .. it had better be something special for swing trading profits, not buy and hold for 5 years!
    My favorite service to date is Robert Hsiu's China Profit Strategy (http://www.chinaprofitstrategy.com) for $199 a year, but this guy is delivering the goods .. and China will be hot, hot for the forseeable future....
    (Just be sure to wait for pullbacks before joining existing picks .. the China market is volatile and stocks can lose 10% overnight .. but if you enter right, the rewards are there!)
    What I am doing is waiting for major pullbacks, then buying the options ... nice.
    • CommentAuthorlago748
    • CommentTimeJul 18th 2007
     Report Post# 33
    space II, Thank's for the info. Hulbert Financial Digest ranks Outstanding Investments as the top performing newsletter in the last five years! $49 annually is a definite bargain. Also, is anyone familiar with The Prudent Speculator, Hulbert ranks it best performance in last 10, 15, and 20 years, quite a record! Thanks.
    Thankful People: dickco
    • CommentAuthorPereUbu
    • CommentTimeJul 18th 2007
     Report Post# 34
    Just joined this forum though have been following Stock Gumshoe's teaser blog for a while. Great stuff... Very interesting information - was thinking of signing up for a couple of newsletters and you' all have made the research a bit easier... Hope to contribute a bit .

    Second that on China TradeStar - gotta stomach the volatility .
  6.  Report Post# 35
    this is a teaser from Stansberry, regarding Jeff Clark's service:
    anyone know what this technology is. can we use it to scan for good stocks ?

    best to all.
    coolrappingdude.
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    If you receive it - and act quickly enough - you'll have a chance to make $64,250 in the space of 48 hours. But you have to be ready.
  7.  Report Post# 36
    hi all:
    any Alliance members out there, who know what Matt Badiali talks about
    in his Vancouver mining speculators teaser.

    many thanks.

    C.R.D
  8.  Report Post# 37
    I'm starting a new discussion which is related to this one. More specifically, the new discussion is about Steve Sjuggerud's DailyWealth offer to identify a government backed investment in what they call "virtual banks".

    I.e from the letter pitch:

    > We call these small banks, "virtual banks." Why? Because they aren't like typical banks at all. They don't have typical bank buildings. They don't have tellers. Or guards. Heck, there's no vault to guard. There are not ATM machines... no customers. You see, these 'banks' aren't really banks at all... but rather simple corporations designed to access the government's cash handout program.

    After all, these virtual banks can make investments that are "guaranteed by an agency of the U.S. government or by a U.S. government sponsored enterprise (GSE)."
    And here's the great news for you and me...

    Some of these "virtual banks" trade on the New York Stock Exchange (NYSE), which allows you to make a fortune from this government boondoggle. <

    The letter goes on, but I'd like someone to explain to me what these securities are and how to identify them. Please move over to my other Discussion: Steve Sjuggerud's DailyWealth offer
    Thankful People: epleub
    • CommentAuthoramyers14
    • CommentTimeAug 30th 2007 edited
     Report Post# 38
    Only one thing needs to be said about Porter Stansberry:

    http://www.sec.gov/litigation/complaints/comp18090.htm

    'nuff said.
    Thankful People: AtlantaExplorer
    • CommentAuthorGukdorak
    • CommentTimeSep 15th 2007
     Report Post# 39
    Someone asked about the Prudent Speculator so I'll spill the beans.

    They are a strictly buy and hold and fundamentals based outfit. Thier portfolio of stocks they follow is immense. They aren't to bothered about short term fluctions in the market since they usually have an investment horizon of 5 years.

    They have email updates at least 3 times a week on which they report anything of interest on thier portfolio. Once a month they issue a newsletter where they recommend 2 stocks to buy now and update thier target sell price all stocks in thier portfolio. They also update the price up to which they would buy each of the stocks in thier portfolio.

    I really like the breath of thier recommendations and the underlying explantion for each recommendation. Probabbly the best service for long term investors.
    • CommentAuthorpooker
    • CommentTimeSep 15th 2007
     Report Post# 40
    I subscribed to their penny stock letter this year. Glad I've only watched most of the picks and not invested in them. Buyer beware on this one. First off, the "penny" stocks they mention are typically beaten down well known companies that trade between 3 and 10 bucks a share.

    Of course in their promotion for this letter, they mention examples of a few stocks that went from trading at a few cents a share to gains in the thousands. Given this sort of hype, I was expecting to see similar kinds of stocks touted in the newsletter.

    Last month's recommendation was particularly lame...a closed end US stock equity fund that's been around for years and run by Gabelli inc...not exactly creative when there are hundreds upon hundreds of microcap companies out there. I'm certainly not going to renew, given that the letter's false labeling as a penny stock newsletter.
    • CommentAuthorsonar
    • CommentTimeSep 17th 2007
     Report Post# 41
    Hi Guys!
    I’m here to tell you about my own exp. with Stansberry &A.
    Now and again you my see their “Hall of fame”- i.e. stock that they was picked successfully.
    But you’ll never see their “hall of shame”- companies that fall about 50-60-70% after they have picked them. Here few samples:
    JRCC Fall from $48 to $5.2; ZHNE-from $3.2 to $1.2 (both- Graham Summers, Inside strategist rec.)
    TMY- from $ 5.3 to $1.9 (Matt Badiali -S&A Oil Report)
    JRC- from $15.0 to $3.65 – Dr. Steve Sjugerund rec. and many others, just name a few.
    And one more feature of their service-when you wish to cancel a subscription, you have to call them (I’m a foreign citizen and it’s very difficult to me to call them due to difference in time (7 hours).
    Besides it is very difficult to foreigner to speak by phone-my English more conservative and a pronunciation of many words, especially by phone, to me it is not clear. And to write to them it is practically impossible.
    My conclusion: I’m not recommending to anyone to spend money for their service!
  9.  Report Post# 42
    I lost money and dropped him. Wish I had taken notes as I left with the
    impression that he is less than honest in his description of his past performance.
    • CommentAuthorbull
    • CommentTimeJan 27th 2008
     Report Post# 43
    2007 Stansberry and Assoc Report Card:

    S&A Short Report/Clark 14.1%
    True Wealth
    • CommentAuthorbull
    • CommentTimeJan 27th 2008
     Report Post# 44
    OOPS Let me try this again.

    This is their 2007 Report Card
    Their
    Grade

    S&A Short report/ Clark 14.1% A
    True Wealth/Sjuggerud 12.2% A
    S&A Oil Report/Badiali 10.8% A
    Medical Investor/Fannon 8.9% A
    Quant Trader/Davis 2.5% B
    PSIA/Stansberry 0.0% A
    S&A Prospector/Badiali -1.2% C
    12% Letter/Dyson -6.5% C
    Inside Strategist/Summers -6.6% D
    Dividend Grabber/Goldsmith -10.3% F
    Sjug.Confidential/Sjuggerud -14.3% F
    Phase 1/Fannon -23.1% F
    Extreme Value/Ferris -23.4% F
    Penny Letter/Ferris -33.5% F
    S&A 16 ModelStansberry/Hunt 3.5% C+

    These are (Simple averages only) that they report of the 2007 picks.

    I'm Sooo tempted to add my opinions here but I'll let you decide for yourselves. Have at it.
    • CommentAuthorRoadster
    • CommentTimeJan 27th 2008
     Report Post# 45
    It is simply amazing that Phase 1 Rob Fannon the most expensive service and the one that in my opinion they do the most due diligence has one of the poorest performances. I own SGMO or Sangamo which I understand is one of the Phase I companies which I have been most impressed with. The due diligence going on at investors village is very good. http://www.investorvillage.com/smbd.asp?mb=1933&pt=m adenylyl is a professor at a university. Dow Agro Chemical involved.
    • CommentAuthorRoadster
    • CommentTimeJan 27th 2008
     Report Post# 46
    http://www.investorvillage.com/smbd.asp?mb=1933&mn=3537&pt=msg&mid=3974554

    Re: How to cure HIV 4. From hook to target/[proof of concept

    I'm a fundamentals investor. I look for stories that I think will be game changing. Each and every one of SGMO's trials pretty much blows me away. Their VEGF story if the only one out there that induces all isoforms of VEGF. I think their AIDS platform is pretty much the only story out there that can be an actual cure. If Sigma does it right they could have THE complete restriction endonuclease system for modifying genes in eukaryotic cells.

    Each of these alone in my head are about a billion dollar valuation several years out. I give their chances for success a broad range %25 - 75%.

    I hope SGMO partners with someone like Codon Devices to produce custom synthesized plasmids in a GMP facility.

    the down sides is we can expect lots of dilution in the future, most likely starting about 6 months from now and again six months later (after the first phase 2 data sets come out) because 80 million in the bank is not nearly enough to cover all the trials they have coming up even though I really like their burn rate. Sigma and DOW and royalties, as well as royalties from Amgen, Wyeth etc for protein production will stem the dilution somewhat. I just hope SGMO doesnt try to go.

    adenylyl

    27 reasons to own SGMO 17-Jan-08 08:57 am Zinc fingers are a disruptive technology with a host of applications in medicine and biotechnology, including gene therapy, stem cell modification, protein production and plant breeding.

    Savvy business management with deals and alliances that include DOW, Sigma Aldrich and Genentech.

    A rapidly developing pipeline that includes angiogenesis, neural regeneration and an entirely novel approach to cure AIDS

    Sound science published in top journals and a scientific advisory board that includes a Nobel laureate.

    They control the intellectual property rights.

    They acquired their sole competitor.

    Targeting DNA ‘provokes biological outcomes not achievable at the RNA or protein level’ – offering an entirely new way to treat disease.

    ZFP technology is applicable to previously ‘undruggable’ disease targets

    Medical breakthroughs will come from combining ZFP technology with stem cells and gene therapy

    Promising results for SB509 can be applied in multiple indications (including DN, PAD, ALS and SCI).

    SB-509 could become the first disease-modifying drug marketed for diabetic neuropathy.

    Type 2 diabetes mellitus is one of the fastest-growing diseases among Western cultures.

    The market for DN alone is in excess of $1 billion per annum.

    The market for a pain repressor is $750 per annum

    New product candidates can be developed in weeks.

    Recent results in stem cells promise widespread dissemination of the technology and royalties from Sigma Aldrich.

    Sigma Aldrich royalties could exceed $100 million per annum.

    Agricultural biotechnology is poised for explosive development

    DOW milestones are being met ahead of time, with a deal in the making.

    Monetizing the technology in agriculture and biotechnology offsets the costs of clinical development

    SGMO's non-transgenic approach could allow crops grown with its products to avoid the genetically modified organism (GMO) designation

    Dow royalties could add up to $100 million per annum.

    ZFP-enhanced pharmaceutical protein production offers multiple licensing opportunities in a $32 billion market.

    Increasing visibility on Wall Street, and accumulation by major institutions.

    $80 million in the bank with no warrants and no debts.

    Undervalued relative to RNAi, with greater capabilities, including gene activation and correction. (A valuation comparable to SRNA would put the stock at over $25 per share).

    Product-enabling platform technologies are limited in their availability. Technology supply-demand favors Sangamo.
    • CommentAuthorblurpie
    • CommentTimeJan 28th 2008
     Report Post# 47
    I was subcribed to Jeff Clark's S&A Short report a few years ago after a teaser "never loose a single trade or your money back". It didn't start off good: an initial position in SBUX puts expired worthless. There subsequently was a short trade in XMSR, which worked out very well. However, the trade could have yielded a lot more money! While these guys brag about "letting your profits run", they always seem to have problems following their own advice.

    Then I raked up a streak of loosers. After about 7 months I decided to call it quits. I remembered the guarantee "nno losing trades", called them and effectively did get my refund. So they're honest in that respect!
    • CommentAuthorGukdorak
    • CommentTimeJan 29th 2008 edited
     Report Post# 48
    I signed up for the 12% letter in December because I liked the essays written by Tom Dyson and he is also the one that got me to buy Realty Income (O). Having read every newsletter he's put out for the last 3 years, on which he's been editor for the last 2, I have to say I am impressed by his approach to income investing which is sometimes unconventional. When I read the S&A year in review my jaw dropped. They pulled no punches in evaluating thier newsletter performance. I have to admit to be impressed by that.
  10.  Report Post# 49
    I have a rule before any of my money leaves my hands, whether it be to a stock broker, financial planner or a financial letter. Let me see your last 5 years of your federal and state tax returns, showing me your personal investments income. If they do show you their tax returns, you'll find that most of their income is from commissions or fees for advice. If their advice is so good they surely aren't going to share it with you, unless they have a strong position themselves and are planning to unload it on the unsuspecting chumps. Why do I insist on the last 5 years of returns? Simple, they may lie to the gummint for the last 1, 2 or 3 years but not likely for 5 years.

    -Eldoradousa
    • CommentAuthorImlearnin
    • CommentTimeFeb 14th 2008
     Report Post# 50
    The post by Amyers14 with the sec.gov/litigation/complaints link explained a lot! I had subscribed to one of those letters only to be flooded with offers from the others. I bit for the Agora Reserve at $6497 for life long membership plus a yearly fee, thinking I would get useful information and no longer get their come-ons. Not so. When I did a review of the results they do publish and annualized those "multipliers" the results are not something in which I want to put my trust. And sense I am at the bottom of the learning curve, trust is the correct word! I should have checked here first! We will see if they refund as advertised. I will keep the Outstanding Investments as it seems to be the only long term profitable letter in the group, though not as specific as I need.

    For those of you who are bored with steady longterm gains, Option Hotline is fast action. I have lost all the little pot I set aside to try it. Seems like those high "could have sold at" prices only happen for short periods, sometimes under 5 minuets. So unless you stay glued to the monitor market opening to market closing you will miss the best sell point, but it will be reported in the next update.

    When I look at my account the green across the board is almost all from one or another of the Motley Fools' recommendations. And some of the dark red! (It is not their fault I had the money to buy BIDU two days before it went down 35%! I should have looked at that recent steep climb up and been smart enough to wait. Hopefully I'm learning!) But the score cards report it all and at a buy in price available to the general public.

    Someone mentioned Hulbert Financial Digest. That and this site are two of the best resources I have found for direction toward reliable recommendations. Thank you OneGuy!

    May we all learn together! ImL